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- Second topic that I propose to Alfred Grosser, troubles in Armenia,

- will troubles in Soviet Armenia jeopardize Mikhail Gorbachev’s politics?

- We can say that its worldwide politics.

- In Marseilles, things may be felt in a slightly different way, as they can be felt in the heart of every Armenian and they are about 100,000 in Provence.

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- Agob Agobian, a refugee, was born in 1913 in Geyve a small Armenian village in the province of Nicomedia, today in Turkey.

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- In 1915, Agob was 2.

- He is the only survivor of the whole Agopian family who was transported and slaughtered that year.

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- I was saved by American missionaries who took us to close to Constantinople,

- and then we stayed there for a few years, after that they took us to Greece, on Corfu Island.

- In 1923, 50 children of us were sent to Canada. I stayed there in Canada for 7 years,

- we worked iron

- and I studied at the same time.

- And what about your family or at least what remained?

- My brother got lost, I don’t know,

- it is 40 years since I have been looking for him with the papers and all that and I haven’t found him I don’t know if he is dead or alive.

- I don’t know.

- In 1934, Agob finds back his uncle settled in Ethiopia.

- He settles there in turn for 40 years.

- But in 74 Ethiopia changes of regime

- in the Agob gust looses all its belongings, he goes back into exile.

- He has been in Marseilles since then.

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- Hovanes Balikian in 96 years old.

- His village in Anatolia, it is not Turk, called Dusaçar from the name of salt mines.

- At the age of 8, Hovanes went through horror.

- They were all slaughtered, and the day after they said, come here and bury your dead.

- And the women and the men were all killed.

- And the women went to bury but they didn’t recognize them.

- The head of one was missing, the foot to the other, everything missing to the other, they did it like in a slaughter house.

- And they returned crying, I was young.

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- Agob and Hovanes, 2 Armenian lives from Marseilles, 2 witnesses of pains of a forgotten genocide.

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